[Dr. Abdullah Al-Hamid:] It’s a fact that one of the hurdles standing in the way of our Arab and Muslim worlds is the deeply-entrenched political and societal innovations (Bid’ah) and heresies that have been enabled by a perverted religious discourse.
The other issue is the changing of the Islamic pledge of allegiance (Bay’ah) to obey the Quran and the Sunnah (Prophetic tradition) from a pledge out of one’s free will to a pledge under coercion and thus denying the social contract. In this country (Saudi Arabia), our culture is still a desert culture, and there’s still the belief that the sword is the way to solve problems. The main hurdle in the Saudi regime is that it’s a despotic system, under which it’s impossible to have independence of the judiciary. Despotic rule, absolute monarchy, cannot have an independent judiciary.
[Dr. Saad Al-Faqih:] We’re talking about the ways and means used by tyrants, in the example of Pharaoh, and the description of him given in the Quran, and his way of ruling, and his way of dealing with his people, and his way of dealing with his opponents, in which case it is the Prophet of Allah, Moses, [pbuh]. Then, we will compare this case as described by the Quran with today’s tyrants, particularly the Al-Sauds. Perhaps, you will come to the conclusion that Pharaoh’s case, despite all his tyranny and the Quran’s rebuke of him, is much better than our rulers in particular, in the Land of the Two Holy Mosques (Saudi Arabia). This may baffle you, but stick with me and see the comparison for yourself, and you might become convinced of that. Generally, tyrants who have the ability to rule with an iron fist and impose a totalitarian rule, also have the ability to boast of their power.
[Dr. Saad Al Faqih]: Historically, what is the political system that resembles Saudi Arabia? The Umayyad state, the Abbasid state, the Ottomans, the Mamluks, the Almoravids, the Idrisids, the Fatimids, non-Muslim states? In fact, there’s no regime that resembles that of the Al-Sauds. If we take the Umayyad and Abbasid states in their early phases, they were strong states and superpowers that were independent. Quite the contrary. They were the ones engaging in conquests.
[Dr. Saad Al-Faqih]: How should we characterize the Saudi regime? Unbelieving? Unjust? Degenerate? Just? Righteous? Of course, to characterize it as just and righteous is something no one has done. Even those that defend the regime say that it’s trying to be right, It’s not a just regime, and it’s not based on Shura (consultation). They acknowledge that it’s a monarchical and autocratic regime, but it’s better for us than other systems. Even those defending the regime say this. So, it’s not just nor righteous. Instead, it’s degenerate and unjust. That much is undeniable.
[Dr. Sa’ad Al-Faqih]: Are Iran and Israel truly enemies? This conspiracy theory that Israel and Iran and the US are all in agreement with each other, and that Russia and the US are in agreement, and that China is part of that game, and that the whole world is a stage, I ask of you to please let go of that idea. These powers are in a real struggle against each other. However, most of them take into consideration the international forces at play, unlike some of the jihadi movements that don’t believe in taking into consideration the international forces at play. They believe in taking into consideration the international forces at play, and they believe in pragmatism, and so, they prioritize their interests over their principles in many cases.