[Dr. Saad Al-Faqih]: The execution of the 37 people raises questions. Why all of these at once? Why 12 from the Shiite sect– sorry, 32 from the Shiite sect and the rest, only a few, from the Sunnis? Why now? And also, why these people, since they were not supposed to be executed, but then a decision was made to execute them? What’s new about the situation which ended up with them being executed according to the supposed court sentences? There must be an explanation for all of this. The explanation is that their executions had nothing to do with court decisions. There is nothing that warranted these death sentences, whether under Islamic law, or or man-made laws, or even according to the standards of the Al-Sauds, i.e., whether it be in line with security considerations, or authoritarian considerations, or whichever considerations.
[Dr. Sa’ad Al-Faqih]: Are Iran and Israel truly enemies? This conspiracy theory that Israel and Iran and the US are all in agreement with each other, and that Russia and the US are in agreement, and that China is part of that game, and that the whole world is a stage, I ask of you to please let go of that idea. These powers are in a real struggle against each other. However, most of them take into consideration the international forces at play, unlike some of the jihadi movements that don’t believe in taking into consideration the international forces at play. They believe in taking into consideration the international forces at play, and they believe in pragmatism, and so, they prioritize their interests over their principles in many cases.
[Dr. Sa’ad Al-Faqih]: What will be the repercussions on us of a strike against Iran? I’ve spoken about this numerous times. The Houthis will invade us from the south. The Iraqi Shiite ‘Al-Hashd Al-Sha’bi’ (Popular Mobilization Forces) will invade from the north. The pro-Iran sleeper cells based in our country (Saudi Arabia) and who are estimated at 15,000-20,000 trained and armed personnel, will immediate launch an organized and coordinated military attack. 20,000 missiles will rain down on the oil rigs throughout the Arabian Gulf, from Kuwait down to the UAE.
[Dr. Saad Al-Fageeh]: The rebuilding of Syria is a secondary topic, but important when considered from the overall context. Why is the issue of rebuilding Syria being raised? Why is Trump asking MBS to rebuild Syria? I’ve been asked this question many times, and I’ve replied that there is no such thing as ‘rebuilding Syria’. Syria is in ruins, and currently it’s impossible, security-wise, to spend a single Riyal on reconstruction. You couldn’t even send in a truck to build a single house, let alone to rebuild Syria. Also, the rebuilding of Syria would cost 1/2 trillion USD. MBS’s money has been spent on many other things. So, the rebuilding of Syria is out of the question. The whole issue is that this proves that MBS is on board with the US troops withdrawal. That’s all. This goes against the thinking that the presence of US troops is a Saudi-American-Israeli project.
Now, Netanyahu and MBS are backing the US withdrawal. Doesn’t that raise our suspicion? Trump and Netanyahu and MBS are in all in agreement over the US troops withdrawal. What’s behind this thinking? This is against logic, and against what is expected. Israel wants the US to be in Syria in order to keep Iran in check, and to some extent, to keep Turkey in check, and to keep the jihadi groups in check as well. Similarly, Saudi Arabia wants the US to stay in order to keep Iran and the jihadi groups in check, and to keep Turkey in check as well, because the Saudis are more antagonistic towards Turkey than Israel and the US. Since this goes against logic, there must be another explanation. We have to come to the conclusion that the Saudi government has no reservations regarding the US withdrawal.
I can’t accept this explanation except if there is a secret agreement between Netanyahu and MBS on a strike on Iran, most likely, to save Trump and MBS. To save Trump from the Mueller investigation, and to save MBS from the Khashoggi case. The whole region would be engulfed in a major war against Iran, and the issue of Khashoggi and all minor issues would be forgotten, and the focus would be deflected towards Iran. The Mueller investigation would have to be closed, as would the Khashoggi case, and to hell with the rest. Could this be a plausible explanation? Allah knows best. But, whoever has another explanation, they’re welcome. Why are Saudi Arabia, i.e. MBS, and Netanyahu supporting Trump on the troops withdrawal, even though one would expect the opposite? The Israeli national interests dictate that the US stay. The interests of MBS are for the US to stay.
So, why are they backing Trump’s decision, even though the military leaders, the leaders in Congress, and the think tanks in the US State Department and the US Defense Department are all against the withdrawal? Similarly, the intellectuals in the state of Israel and many of those that were with MBS are in favor of the US staying in order to fight the jihadi groups, and to hold Turkey and Iran back. So, what’s the explanation? The explanation must be different from what we’re thinking. I think that it’s the war against Iran, but there might be another explanation.
[Host] But, Mohammed Bin Salman speaks in a tone that is hostile to Iran, and he also talks about preparing for war in the next 15..
[Dr. Mohammed Al-Massari] When the Iranian revolution happened— I think we mentioned that in a previous episode, or we’ll come back to it later in detail, when we come back to Wahhabism and its repercussions in Saudi Arabia. When Iran raised the islamic banner, regardless of whether it is truly islamic or not, the fact is that it raised an islamic banner. Abdel Nasser raised an Arab nationalist banner, and socialist, and revolutionary banner. The latter was confronted with the banner of islamic solidarity by (king) Faisal, and Faisal was able to defeat it, and the historical fact is that this movement was defeated, because Faisal was able to gain the masses, and he used the (Al-Ikhwan Al-Muslimoon) Muslim Brotherhood and exploited them— and we will get back to them in a little while, for that purpose, and he dealt a definitive blow to the nationalist and revolutionary movement. There is no doubt about that.
Iran came on the scene, and the revolution there was carried out on an islamic basis. Shiite Islam, but on an islamic basis. So, there was now a rival. Saudi Arabia enjoyed a monopoly. The Saudi motto was always, “There is no place in the world where the islamic Shariah is applied to the letter except us. Only us” So, now there was a new challenger who was making the claim that “we are applying the islamic Shariah.” Yes, it was according to a different school of thought and sect, but, “We are Muslims and islamists.”
So, now the monopoly was at stake, and the Saudi throne was in jeopardy, in addition to the fact that Iran had deviated from its traditional Shiite theology of awaiting the emergence of the Mahdi, and the Shiite people of Iran had begun to take matters in their own hands and hold elections, etc. All of this poses a lethal danger to the Al-Sauds. So, they played the sectarian card. Now, in addition to this, they want to strike a deal with Israel because he is deeply convinced that the Al-Sauds’ stay in power would not be possible except with the blessings of the US and Israel.
So, his statements on Iran that Khamenei is like Hitler or worse than Hitler, etc, is nothing but playing with the emotions of the Zionists and currying favor with them. Otherwise, this statement is out of context with regards to the regional conflict. There is no justification for him to be described as Hitler or not. He could have described him as Genghis Khan if he wanted, but not as Hitler. It’s clear that this was intended for the Zionist elements in order to play with the emotions of the Jews and gain them in his favor.